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Netch Areas cause CTD

I don't know if this problem has been answered before, but whenever I enter a cell where Bull/Betty Netches should spawn, the game CTDs every time. What's causing this issue and how do I fix it?

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Have you tried starting a new

Have you tried starting a new game and returning to one of those areas?  Do you see a Bull/Betty Netch before it CTDs?

Try the fix I have posted here.  Maybe it will work for you:
https://tesrenewal.com/comment/85043#comment-85043

 

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Where can I go that will have

Where can I go that will have them at the start?

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Also, the fix you posted

Also, the fix you posted there did nothing.

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Podo wrote:

Podo wrote:

Where can I go that will have them at the start?

Sorry, I wasn't clear before.  What I meant to say is to try restarting your game and go to the location that has been consistently crashing for you.  This is to test to see if the problem is related to your saved game becoming corrupted.  If it still in the same location despite starting a new game, then please post your load order. 

I do not know of any bug reports related to CTD in cells containing netches.  So hopefully, the problem is just related to either your saved game or some other data file being corrupted... the solution in that case would be to re-install what is corrupted.

Also, please answer the question regarding whether or not you see a netch before experiencing CTD.  In other words, please describe what happens leading up to the CTD:  Do you see a netch appear and then immediate CTD?  Or do you get CTD prior to any netch appearing?  In that case, how do you know the CTD is related to netches?  Did you open up the area inside the CS?  Please elaborate why you have decided this is related to loading cells containing bull/betty netches.  That way, we do not have to waste time doing things you have already done and we can better reproduce exactly what you problem is.  Thanks.

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I don't see any netches

I don't see any netches because it crashes before they would even appear. I haven't tried opening the area in the CS yet, and so far the new game thing isn't helping because I don't know how to make the netches spawn to test it, since the spawning pattern seems to be random.

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And I know it has to be

And I know it has to be related to the netches, because I ran through the same areas during times where they hadn't spawned and it didn't crash there. It only crashes when the cell would have a netch present apparently.

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Use these console commands:

Use these console commands:

player.placeatme 0102109f

player.placeatme 010210a0

 

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Ooookay. So I did the

Ooookay. So I did the placeatme thing on both the current and new files, and it worked perfectly fine without crashing...wtf? Do those areas just have a broken spawn for the netches that won't fix itself or something?

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Ooookay. So I did the

Ooookay. So I did the placeatme thing on both the current and new files, and it worked perfectly fine without crashing...wtf? Do those areas just have a broken spawn for the netches that won't fix itself or something?

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I'm planning to check the

I'm planning to check the cells in the CS, what are the location numbers for the cells in the Balur's Farmhouse/Pelagaid general area?

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Pelagiad is at 0, -14  

Pelagiad is at 0, -14

 

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Hm. What should I be looking

Hm. What should I be looking for to tell me what's wrong?

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The crash usually happens

The crash usually happens here both here, and when I go towards here from Balur's farm. And my load/draw distance is all the way up, so do you think it's this area, or the area in the distance that's about to load whenever I step into this area?

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If your game is crashing when

If your game is crashing when you can standing or walking into that area, then it's probably an issue with a cell that is loading in the background.  By default, the game engine will background load cells about 5 cell units away from your current position.  Perhaps the crash is coming from a leveled list within +/- 5 cells of that area. 

What level are you?

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Level 7

Level 7

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After starting a new game,

After starting a new game, type:

player.setlevel 7

Then explore that area that crashed before to see if it crashes now.  If it still does not crash, then it suggests that perhaps the crash problem is inside your saved game and has nothing to do with any of the installed data files.

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I didn't do that. On a random

I didn't do that. On a random whim, I decided to install the Unofficial Oblivion patches today, and when I tested the original file first for curiosity, I found it wasn't crashing anymore. Weird.

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Well... maybe that is why it

Well... maybe that is why it's listed in the "Requirements" section for Morroblivion: because it fixes thousands of bugs which cause Oblivion to crash.  I'm glad it's fixed for you.  Have fun.

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To be fair, it says it's "Not

To be fair, it says it's "Not required, but highly recommended"